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The Conductor ([personal profile] antitrust) wrote in [community profile] trustfell2015-12-19 12:14 pm

Take Responsibility.

After a while, the door at the bottom of those stairs unlocks and it swings open gently of its own accord, allowing everyone back down into the courtroom; it's not as bad as it was last week, but again, there are decidedly fewer of them than there were last time.

The podium circle has changed once again, with Rick, Tabby and Sukuyo joining the ranks of the deceased, their podiums draped with black cloth and adorned with greyscale photographs. The shadows are quiet down in the darkness of the pit; for the time being, it's hard to say what the pit itself looks like after the explosion last week.

One way or another, we'll find out by the end of the day.

As usual, the proceedings are being watched from behind that panel of glass behind podium 30; he'll speak as soon as everyone has found their place in the circle.

"Familial has been taken from you. Regardless of what her affiliation was – whether she was with me or the lot of you – you know what you have to do by now. There can be no hesitation; you should offer no mercy.

It's you against the guilty. Take control of your fate, and hold them responsible.
"

Ten Participants remain. However many more we lose today is up to you.
blazeit: (shit idr this person's name)

[personal profile] blazeit 2015-12-19 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, same. And the other weird thing is, I feel like this person didn't even really try to make it look like a suicide. Like, was there even a spoon nearby for her to stir the rat poison into her drink?
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[personal profile] ninehundredlives 2015-12-19 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
There wasn't, no.
blazeit: (get away from me with ur teen angst)

[personal profile] blazeit 2015-12-19 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
So basically this cover-up is so weak that even a first grader could probably blow through it.

... What I don't get is, what's the point? Does the killer gain anything from setting it up like that...?
ninehundredlives: ([ don't you worry love ])

[personal profile] ninehundredlives 2015-12-19 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Not much, unless they really just underestimated us.
sunsong: (YO ♫ can we not tho.)

[personal profile] sunsong 2015-12-19 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a common culprit theme.
sunsong: (YO ♫ can we not tho.)

[personal profile] sunsong 2015-12-19 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't heard anyone mention it. I mean...they obviously bothered to have her write that note, right? So they tried at least a little. Because like fuck I'm buyin' she'd kill herself instead of tryin' to help us out.
blazeit: (that little bastard!!!!!!)

tw maybe?? for suicidal ideation

[personal profile] blazeit 2015-12-19 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
But here's the thing... she wasn't injured except the bruising on her face, right? So how'd they force her to write the note?

... Could they just have... taken a letter that she'd already written and... you know. Not used.
sunsong: (DECLARE ♫ no i'm good.)

tw maybe?? for suicidal ideation

[personal profile] sunsong 2015-12-19 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think she'd write a letter like that and abandon it. I mean...come on. The letter said she was writin' it right before she killed herself. Right? As to how they forced her...

[ A shrug. ]

Unless we assume someone else wrote the note or that someone forced her to write the note somehow, I don't think it works. What we have to figure out is whether or not the notes are faked by someone else - or if one of them was forged, I guess, like Weiss says? - or if it was a force thing. Maybe they threatened her?
blazeit: (i might be a bastard but you're stupid s)

[personal profile] blazeit 2015-12-19 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I still think the letter I found is definitely written by her. First off, her key was in her pocket when I found the body... and if the letter were planted, they'd probably wanted to have put it somewhere more obvious than under the covers.
sunsong: (BLANK ♫ stare aside.)

[personal profile] sunsong 2015-12-19 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Then my vote is still on "she was induced to write the second letter". ...And even if not, the other option is still forgery. I mean...how would they have gotten a letter she abandoned from her room if her key was in her pocket like you said just now? You know?
blazeit: (stupid ass fuckmunch)

[personal profile] blazeit 2015-12-19 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It'd be easy for the killer to grab a letter off of her desk if she were killed in her room.

... It'd also explain her chair falling over.
sunsong: (DECLARE ♫ no i'm good.)

[personal profile] sunsong 2015-12-19 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but - I guess what I'm sayin' is why wouldn't you crumple that note up if you weren't going to do the thing immediately? If you have second thoughts about something like that, wouldn't it make sense to get rid of it like her other letter?
blazeit: (tfw u unironically think "he's hot here")

[personal profile] blazeit 2015-12-19 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
What if she wasn't trying to get rid of the letter in her room, but she was trying to hide it somewhere that the killer wouldn't see, hoping that we'd find it later?

I mean, you wouldn't get rid of a letter by putting it in your bed... and the fact that I found an old letter in her room is pretty decent proof that she was keeping the letters that she didn't end up sending, right?
sunsong: (BLANK ♫ stare aside.)

[personal profile] sunsong 2015-12-19 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
No, hang on. The letter YOU found was crumpled up and half finished, like she threw it away. The letter SUSAN found was all nice and finished and not crumpled up. Isn't that obviously way too different to assume Sukuyo ditched both of them?
blazeit: (i might be a bastard but you're stupid s)

[personal profile] blazeit 2015-12-19 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
... Gonna be honest here, I have not a fucking clue. I feel like that's more trying to get inside her head and figure out what she might or might not have been thinking, there could be any number of reasons she did different things with different letters.
sunsong: (YO ♫ can we not tho.)

[personal profile] sunsong 2015-12-19 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Look, if the letter was written by her without being forced, it's a suicide. That's what I'm saying here - and I don't think it IS a suicide. Because...that letter was written immediately before she died, from how it sounds.

...Ugh, I guess it doesn't fuckin' matter, let's move on from this...we're all disagreein' on it, and we all more or less agree she didn't actually fuckin' kill herself, right?
blazeit: (shit idr this person's name)

[personal profile] blazeit 2015-12-19 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't think any of us at this point think it was suicide.

... But also, I'm still open to the theory she wasn't forced to write the letter. Anybody can write a suicide letter and not actually go through with it. The shitty set-up could be because the killer saw the letter already there and tried to use it to their advantage.

I'm not, like... married to this theory, I just don't think we should count it out either.
sunsong: (BLANK ♫ stare aside.)

[personal profile] sunsong 2015-12-19 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's fair enough. Anyway...we should figure out what was burned or how she was actually killed if not by rat poison, right...?
blazeit: (a thoughtful bakugou is... strange)

[personal profile] blazeit 2015-12-19 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that seems like a more productive conversation right now.
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[personal profile] icysemblance 2015-12-19 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I know the writing matches, but are we absolutely certain she wrote the note herself, and it wasn't someone copying her handwriting?
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[personal profile] sunsong 2015-12-19 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't check the notes, so I'm not sure if we're sure. Wasn't the crumpled up note found in her room, though? Where was her key?